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  • in reply to: Anzac Ways #87360


    I googled the ceremony, and this is from Wiki:

    The first recorded welcome to country occurred in 1976, when entertainers Ernie Dingo and Richard Walley developed a ceremony to welcome a group of Māori artists who were participating in the Perth International Arts Festival. The welcome, extended on behalf of the Noongar people, was intended to mirror the visitors’ own traditions, while incorporating elements of Aboriginal culture.[2]
    Walley recalled:[3]
    I asked the good spirits of my ancestors and the good spirits of the ancestors of the land to watch over us and keep our guests safe while they’re in our Country. And then I talked to the spirits of their ancestors, saying that we’re looking after them here and we will send them back to their Country.
    Arts administrator Rhoda Roberts says that the Aboriginal National Theatre Trust was instrumental in developing the welcome to country during the 1980s.[4]
    Since 2008, a welcome to country has been incorporated into the ceremonial opening of the Parliament of Australia, an event which occurs after each federal election. The welcome includes a speech as well as traditional music and dance. Given that Parliament sits in Canberra, traditionally part of Ngambri country, a Ngambri elder officiates.[5]


    Then there’s this:

    Acknowledgement or Welcome: What’s the difference?
    There’s sometimes confusion as to what the difference between a Welcome and an Acknowledgement is and when it’s appropriate to do them. The key difference is who performs each one.
    An Acknowledgement of Country can be said by anyone, Indigenous or non-Indigenous.
    This is because it’s about respecting the Traditional Custodians, their Country and their history. When you acknowledge Country you also acknowledge the Elders of that mob and their Lore, promising to respect them and their land while you’re on it.
    A Welcome to Country can only be given by a Traditional Custodian of the land you are on.
    It signifies the Traditional Custodians inviting you onto their land and granting you safe passage. A Welcome is typically given by an Elder or leader from the Traditional Custodians whose land you are on, however, with permission, other members can give a welcome on their behalf. It’s also sometimes accompanied by a Smoking Ceremony, to cleanse the energy of those being welcomed.


    There are other articles that seem to say something similar was done way back, and I tend to believe that somewhere along the line, Ernie and co did look into history, and based the ceremony on it.

    I see no harm in it.

    However,  I believe actions such as this tend to make some groups feel nice and warm and fuzzy at that moment.   Yet the sexual abuse and child molestation occurring  in some  Aboriginal communities is denied by,  in some cases, by those same groups.   It seems more important in some groups to have a show like that, rather  than to be doing something useful.

    Just my thoughts.

    in reply to: Episode two- Re a Blast from the Past #87322


    Wonderful stuff.  I can remember it all too.   It hasn’t all completely disappeared though.  I often see young men holding doors open for ladies.

    Haven’t seen any cigar smoking men though.LOL

    in reply to: Jacqui Lambie on Q&A #87321


    Ah! Miss Lambie!

    The greatest intellect of our time!

    in reply to: Sexuality, and other stuff. #87320


    WTB:           I have never seen it claimed that persons can change their gender on a whim either?

    Just for your interest WIlliamTB, the following from a lengthy article in the Australian today:


    The argument is that because some people are intersex — they have developmental conditions resulting in ambiguous sex characteristics — the categories male and female exist on a spectrum, and are therefore no more than social constructs. If male and female are merely arbitrary groupings, it follows that everyone, regardless of genetics or anatomy should be free to choose to identify as male or female, or to reject sex entirely in favour of a new bespoke “gender identity”.

    Those most vulnerable to sex denialism are children. When they’re taught that sex is grounded in identity instead of biology, sex categories can easily become conflated with regressive stereotypes of masculinity and femininity. Masculine girls and feminine boys may become confused about their own sex. The dramatic rise of “gender dysphoric” adolescents — especially young girls — in clinics likely reflects this new cultural confusion.
    The large majority of gender-dysphoric youths eventually outgrow their feelings of dysphoria during puberty, and many end up identifying as homosexual adults. “Affirmation” therapies, which insist a child’s cross-sex identity should never be questioned, and puberty-blocking drugs, advertised as a way for children to “buy time” to sort out their identities, may only solidify feelings of dysphoria, setting them on a pathway to more invasive medical interventions and permanent infertility. This pathologising of sex-atypical behaviour is extremely worrying and regressive. It is similar to gay “conversion” therapy, except that it’s now bodies instead of minds that are being converted to bring children into “proper” alignment with themselves.

    The time for politeness on this issue has passed. Biologists and medical professionals need to stand up for the empirical reality of biological sex. When authoritative scientific institutions ignore or deny empirical fact in the name of social accommodation, it is an egregious betrayal to the scientific community they represent. It undermines public trust in science, and it is dangerously harmful to those most vulnerable.

    Colin Wright is an evolutionary biologist at Penn State University; Emma Hilton is a developmental biologist at the University of Manchester.



    So just information and  to illustrate that it’s out there.   Not to agree or disagree.



    in reply to: Sexuality, and other stuff. #87294


    I have no problem with homosexuals or lesbians.

    I do have a problem with seemingly being pushed into ‘believing’ that there are about 40/50 genders.     Then, refusing to do so, to be lambasted and called a bigot amongst other names.

    I also have a problem with children being ‘taught’ about all this from a very young age, and being told they can change their gender on a whim from day to day.

    Some parts of the media are treating certain children as experts after being brainwashed along  lines that suit their agenda.

    Unfortunately, many parents are intimidated by all this, and are too frightened to speak up.

    So the cycle is formed.


    in reply to: The High Court #87293


    I think I can guess the case which has prompted your post William TB.

    The courts in this country are becoming  become pitiful, imo.

    in reply to: Sexuality, and other stuff. #87267




    Anybody can do or be what they like.   Just don’t shove it in my face, or try and force others into a different way of thinking.

    in reply to: The death penalty #87266


    This topic has been discussed many times over the years.

    I cannot say I agree with the death penalty for several reasons.    But there are some crimes that have made me think twice about it.

    I have mentioned before the murder of Anita Cobby.    I read a book  on it at the time, which detailed the horrors that girl endured.   One can’t believe those men are human.   They are being housed and fed till they die at our expense.     One, I believe has passed away in prison.   He would have had medical care till he died.              They are the type who would not imo, ever be rehabilitated, or in any way make use of their life in prison to in any way better themselves.   Yet, killing them is too easy for them.    They would just go to sleep. Way too easy.

    So that’s as far as I can contemplate the matter.

    in reply to: The National Anthem. #87265


    Every year, Australia Day celebrations are spoilt by groups who want to change this or that.

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