05/10/2019 at 10:57 pm #8686706/10/2019 at 4:11 am #86868williamtheboldParticipant
Those are certainly eye opening facts.
But I do think that when we assess a country’s contribution to reducing pollution, we should view it on a per capita basis.06/10/2019 at 1:39 pm #86869
William I agree but don’t you think we are entitled to use (as we export our coal) the coal to have cheaper power?
If you take into account that China supplies the most RARE METALS used in the magnets of the wind generators, this in itself is as the same or more Pollutant than our coal. I could go on about the pollution costs to the environment
by the production of all the modern technology, but it would take me a dozen pages.06/10/2019 at 2:07 pm #86870williamtheboldParticipant
I made the comment some time ago that during the changeover to renewable energy sources we would still need to use coal.
I think I even suggested we might need to build more coal fired power stations.
Whether we like it or not, we need energy in the form of electricity.
It must come from somewhere. It is essential for everyday life.
So unless we revert immediately to primitive ways of living, which with our vast populations would likely be just as harmful and polluting, we have no choice but to use coal sparingly and efficiently for a little while yet.
But change must come: SOON.
We simply cannot keep on increasing the population and expect our planet to cope. It just doesn’t have the resources.
Already there are many areas where famine and disease are taking over.
There is no magic wand we can wave to set things right.
We are living in ways which cannot be sustained for much longer.
It might be hundreds of years away, but something drastic will happen.
We are almost at breaking point.
But even so, we need to remain steadfast, even in the face of impending disaster.
It will not help any one or any thing for us to go round with long faces, gnashing our teeth, and frothing at the mouth.
We must simply set about living as efficiently as possible.
If we don’t need to do it, don’t do it.
If we don’t need to use it, don’t acquire it.
Don’t live a lavish lifestyle.
Learn to use your mind for recreation, rather than using places or objects.
Restrictions on living need not plunge us all in to deep despair.
The mind is a remarkable thing. It can adjust.
Remember what your feet are for too.
Contribute more to greypath to keep your mind agile and alert?
That’s the lot from me for now! ^_^06/10/2019 at 5:31 pm #86872
Two things to build.
Coal power stations
Water desalination plants!
For irrigation you only need Part desalination, once the water is in the weirs or dams the sun does the rest!07/10/2019 at 12:12 pm #86875SalinaParticipant
I agree re the coal, JJS. Desal I’m not so sure…..maybe small ones for as you say…part desal. If they had started pipelines down from the north twenty or thirty years ago, much of the water problem would be solved.07/10/2019 at 9:56 pm #86882
Yep Salina, Pipe the water across from the ORD river during the wet season!07/10/2019 at 10:10 pm #86883JenParticipant
Stuff coal, dirty stuff.09/10/2019 at 4:55 pm #86892
Jen: What about the wind generators! The Magnets use RARE EARTH in their manufacture, You should see the country after the mine, most of the product comes from china & the area it comes from is totally contaminated.
Then there is the manufacturing of LITHIUM BATTERIES just as bad as coal!
could go on & on, TELEPHONES, COMPUTERS, 🙁 🙁
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